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- Date: Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:07:39 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #794
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 15 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 794
-
- Today's Topics:
- A Proposed Message System
- Beginner Questions
- CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON!!! (was Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks!
- Enough already
- Keyers and Positive/Negative keylines
- LF Band experience?
- Licensing...
- Listening to Comet/Jupiter collision
- Please read: Ham Radio Bootcamp (Long)
- Still waiting...
- VHF & UHF in NYC Metro Ar
- Wanted 2 or 6 meter rig
- Which Ringo Do I Buy
-
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-
- Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available
- (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams".
-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 03:30:20 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!shopson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: A Proposed Message System
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Sounds great, but are you sure you won't be competing with
- AT&T's 20% off everything or MCI's friends and family or
- maybe Sprint's 20% off the MOST...
-
- And with the price of college now a days, only rich kids whose
- parents pay the phones can afford to go out of town for school
- anyway.
-
- 8-)
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:01:00 GMT
- From: mozz.unh.edu!132.177.128.23!needell@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Beginner Questions
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2vvblj$r8m@news.csus.edu> dbrown@CSUS.EDU (Dan Brown) writes:
-
- I'd also like to find a computer program to generate exams using
- the current question pool. I have AUTOEXAM, but it uses the 1990 pools
- for Novice and Technician. Other than that, it seems like a nice piece of
- work; are current question pools available for that program?
-
-
-
- you can get programs for all of the class tests via anonymous ftp to
- oak.oakland.edu in pub/msdos/hamradio/tec22.zip - this is the technician
- question pool. gen21.zip is the general test ...
-
-
- there is also a lot of good stuff in /pub/hamradio
-
- good luck. - Jerry
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:32:17 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!adis-215.adis.brown.edu!user@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON!!! (was Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <301rr9$6db@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu (Michael
- P. Deignan) wrote:
-
- > plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) writes:
- >
- > You may want to tell your news admin that your news software is set up
- > wrong.
- >
- > > Imagine the folks that have to wait for *real* licenses!
- >
- > My general radiotel license took about 8 weeks, to the day.
- >
-
- Yes but doesn't the FCC get a cut of that $35.00 you pay?
-
- --
- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR
- == Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu, Tel. (401) 863-1880 Fax. (401) 863-2269
- == The opinions above are my own and not those of my employer.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:56:59 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!isuvax.iastate.edu!TWP77@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Enough already
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeff,
- It seems to me you were the only person saying -40F=-40C meant
- that you could cancel the -40s. Everyone else seemed to realize
- that since you can't put a degree sign in a usenet post, it was
- just deleted.
-
- Sheesh
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 94 17:36:49 EDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!dragon!hayes!bcoleman@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Keyers and Positive/Negative keylines
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CsL416.CGu@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, alanb@hpnmarb.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom) writes:
- > A few of the really old tube-type transmitters used cathode keying.
- > In that case, the open-circuit voltage can run +50 to +300V or more
- > with closed-circuit current being equal to the final amplifier current,
- > perhaps as much as an Amp. Make sure you have a well-insulated key
- > if you use one of these monsters!
-
- My brother got a DX-40 early in his ham carreer, but it wasn't until after
- I got licensed that we really had a chance to try it. I was shocked (!) when
- I found that the cathode-keyed circuit had nearly 600 (!) volts across the
- key contacts key-up. Using a straight key, you'd also see a few small sparks
- as you sent. I considered this method of keying to be completely unsafe.
- Eventually, I converted the DX-40 to grid-block keying, and it worked pretty
- well. Sounded much better with the grid-block, but I did have a problem with
- the capacitors in my negative voltage supply occasionally self-destructing.
-
- --
- Bill Coleman, AA4LR ! Internet: bcoleman@hayes.com
- Principal Software Engineer ! AppleLink: D1958
- Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! CIS: 76067,2327
- POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA !
- Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
- Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 09:21:49 CDT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!news.umkc.edu!UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU!S965544@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: LF Band experience?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm considering experimenting with FM modulated LF (160-190 Kh), and would be
- interested in hearing from anyone who has any experience in this area.
- RESPOND: S965544@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (BILL)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 03:49:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!shopson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Licensing...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Maybe the FCC could issue a series of call signs to VECs so that they
- could provide them to the person once they pass the test. The application
- could be sent into the FCC with this serialized call sign and entered
- into the computer when the application arrives, but the new ham could begin
- transmiting as soon as he completes the test. This would work like the
- upgrades. If a VEC does not use all the issued call signs he could return the
- list to the FCC or give them to another VEC.
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 13 Jul 1994 22:23:29 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.world.net!news.teleport.com!news.teleport.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Listening to Comet/Jupiter collision
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- According to an article in July's QST, "Hear the impact?," Jupiter
- naturally emits decametric radiation between 3 and 39.5 Mhz and the most
- intense emissions are at 8 Mhz. The earth's ionosphere blocks the lower
- frequencies - especially during daytime hours - so the range between 18
- and 30 Mhz is studied more intensely by radio astronomers. The article
- says that anyone with good 10, 12 or 15 meter antennas should be able to
- hear the comet fragments collide with Jupiter (at least 21 of them). Dr
- F. Reyes at U of Florida says the fragments might interact with the
- planet's magnetosphere and create short bursts of radio energy in the
- last 10 to 20 seconds before impact.
- Current estimates put the first impact at 1926 UTC on July 16. Fragments
- will continue to hit Jupiter until 0800 UTC on July 22. They don't know
- the exact time each fragment will collide with Jupiter, but once the
- first one hits - they will know impact times very accruately. There will
- be one hit every 3 to 12 hours.
- For more information, there is the ASTRONOMY INFO NUMBER (202)357-2000
- (This is the Smithsonian Institution's Astronomy Information Number).
- The book suggested is The Amateur Radio Astronomer's Handbook (Crown
- Publishers, 1986)
- INTERNET ADDRESS (for detailed info): (FTP) astro.ufl.edu under pub/jupiter
-
- It's this Saturday - so be listening. If anyone is really interested,
- they should pick up the July issue of QST and look on page 62.
-
- Max
- N7NWG
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 05:51:27 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: Please read: Ham Radio Bootcamp (Long)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <300om6$bvi@search01.news.aol.com> robb873302@aol.com (RobB873302) writes:
- >HAM RADIO BOOTCAMP
- >.....
- >and even Morse code practice could be covered in such a net. VE's could
-
- Interesting idea. I don't have a copy of the CFR regs for 11M - is
- A2 emission (modulated CW) allowed on there? I'd be happy to give
- code practice sessions on CB if it's legal. But would that be considered
- a broadcast (which I know is prohibited on 11M)?
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 03:42:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!shopson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Still waiting...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Well, it's been four days, I still have 13 weeks 3 days left before I
- can expect to receive my license. By that time I could be and Extra
- Class....
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 94 09:07:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!iat.holonet.net!moondog!donald.davis@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: VHF & UHF in NYC Metro Ar
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SS>The crystals in it are as follows:
- SS>1 147.09/147.69 - Queens Closed Repeater - PL-114.8 (16)
- SS>2 147.00/146.40 - Manhattan Closed Repeater - PL-136.5 (21)
- SS>3 146.88/146.28 - Staten Island Open
- SS>4 146.79/146.19 - Paramus N.J. Open - PL-136.5 (21)
- SS>5 146.97/146.37 - Beacon N.Y. Open
- SS>6 146.76/146.16 - Sayerville N.J. Open
- SS>7
- SS>8 146.94/146.34 - Rye N.Y. Open
- SS>9
- SS>10
- SS>11 146.58 simplex
- SS>12 146.52 simplex
-
- ---
- . QMPro 1.0 41-6392 . Where is the STUN setting on a Laser Printer?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 03:22:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!shopson@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Wanted 2 or 6 meter rig
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Anyone got an old 2 or 6 meter rig for sale?
-
- I've seen old 2 meter SSB rigs... Looking for something
- I can experiment with. 6 meters would be good also.
-
- --
- o_/
- _/|
- ___/_\__
- '
- Cowabunga, dude......
- shopson@netcom.com
- Scott Hopson
- Costa Mesa, Ca.
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 01:00:00 -0600
- From: conch!gruntwork.sps.mot.com!oakhill!val!afarm!fredmail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Which Ringo Do I Buy
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On 11 Jul 94 01:22pm, Gary Coffman said the following:
-
- GC> Short of buying a Cellwave antenna (mucho $$$), a Comet or Diamond will
- GC> give the best bang for the buck. (Note you can *build* a Comet or
- GC> Diamond type antenna fairly easily and cheaply. That really gives the
- GC> best bang for the buck.)
-
- Gary: Can you post the instructions for building a Diamond type
- antenna?
-
- Gregory < KB5YKO >
-
- ... .
- * Evaluation copy of Silver Xpress. Day # 147
- * Silver Xpress V4.00
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 05:35:49 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vh2ps$sus@masala.cc.uh.edu>, <CsKuw1.4vo@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <rwa.773613182@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca>
- Subject : Enough already! (was: Show work for full credit)
-
- In article <rwa.773613182@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca> rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) writes:
- >jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
- >
- >>In article <2vh2ps$sus@masala.cc.uh.edu> DJENKINS@jetson.uh.edu (Jenkins, David F.) writes:
- >>>
- >>>But if -40F = -40C, then F always = C, and *that* isn't right, either...
- >
- >>I hope you're not serious. You can't cancel the -40 on both sides.
- >>The F and C are units of measurement not multiplicative factors.
- >
- >>Sheesh - the TV generation.
- >
- >F = 9/5 C + 32 (a formula taught in grade schools)
- >
- >-40 = 9/5 x -40 + 32
- >-40 = -72 + 32
- >-40 = -40
-
- Look Ross, I'm not disputing the fact that the two scales coincide
- at -40 degrees, I was pointing out that you can't cancel the -40 on
- both sides: -40F = -40C does not imply that F = C for all
- temperatures. Now, if we have -40*X = -40*Y then that DOES
- imply that X = Y.
-
- Sheesh.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:54:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!pstc3!md@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <301ja7$495@wizard.uark.edu>, <301rr9$6db@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <Anthony_Pelliccio-140794103318@adis-215.adis.brown.edu>
- Subject : Re: CALL YOUR CONGRESSPERSON!!! (was Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks!
-
- In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-140794103318@adis-215.adis.brown.edu>,
- Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes:
-
- |> Yes but doesn't the FCC get a cut of that $35.00 you pay?
-
- No, I believe $15 goes to the COLEM and $20 to the local testing
- group to cover expenses.
-
- MD
- --
- -- The best way for Bill Clinton to keep his
- -- legal fees down is to keep his zipper up.
- --
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 94 09:16:40 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken.llnl.gov!noc.near.net!news.tufts.edu!news.hnrc.tufts.edu!jerry@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <shopsonCsnIEq.2HM@netcom.com>, <Ro8wRPy.joekeenan@delphi.com>, <301pb8$7l1@server.st.usm.edu>ne
- Subject : Re: Passed the test, time to wait...
-
- In article <301pb8$7l1@server.st.usm.edu>, sbcleek@whale.st.usm.edu (Suzanne Buice Cleek) writes:
- > I'll stay with my
- > no-code tech for now because work, school, etc doesn't provide time for
- > studying for upgrades.
-
- The next step is to learn the code. If you have access to a personal computer,
- you might find working with a morse code program such as Super Morse to be an
- entertaining diversion for a few minutes a day.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 10:41:07 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vud99$gqj@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <2vujjd$jr9@src-news.pa.dec.com>, <3000gt$eds@gap.cco.caltech.edu>
- Subject : Re: Lack of professional consideration for HAM operators
-
- In article <3000gt$eds@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, Paul J. Brewer wrote:
- > I don't know why people assume that paying for the liscence would encourage
- > better service. This is true for the private sector but is cewrtainly
- > not true for the public sector.
- >
- > Suppose the fee was $25, and it was still a 12 week wait. Would we pay....
- > yes. Would they have a reason to improve.... not necessarily. After all,
- > they have a monopoly -- they can charge whatever they want and take
- > however long they want. Other examples include the motor vehciles dept.
- > of any state.
- >
- > Paul Brewer KI6CQ
- > pjb@cco.caltech.edu
- >
- How many of you get REAL COURTEOUS service at your state's motor vehicles
- agencies? That's govt fee based services for you...
-
- Andy N3LCW
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 10:41:23 -0400
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.intercon.com!news1.digex.net!digex.net!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <381@doghouse.win.net><2vu2d0$if7@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <387@doghouse.win.net>, <300mv7$rib@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>
- Subject : Re: The Amateur Radio Service is a Joke
-
- In article <300mv7$rib@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, Michael P. Deignan wrote:
- .............
- >
- > If you have a person jamming your repeater today, you can't get the FCC to
- > lift a finger. Numerous cases have been cited here about troublemakers whom,
- > even after you've caught and they've admitted to it, continue to cause
- > problems. A troublemaker has to interfere with other services before the
- > FCC even takes notice. The net result will be more lawsuits and guerilla
- > warfare as the only way to fight the RF terrorist will become lowering
- > yourself to their level. Someone in this very newsgroup posted how they
- > planted a white-noise generator near a repeater to wreck havoc and get it
- > off the air.
- >
- > Then we have some pundits crying for virtually no testing or licensing
- > standards. ITS MY RIGHT! I'M BREATHING, AREN'T I?!?
- >
- >
- ...............
- > MD
- > --
- > -- The best way for Bill Clinton to keep his
- > -- legal fees down is to keep his zipper up.
-
- Something I heard while I lived in Orlando, Fla on a 2M repeater re;a jammer.
-
- '....guess we got a house torching party this weekend...'
-
- I guess this is what happens when the authorities take a hands-off approach
- to criminal activities; a sign of the times?
-
-
- Andy
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 16:50:38 -0700
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!asuvax!chnews!ornews.intel.com!ornews.intel.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2vu2ii$if7@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <3049e7$pip@ornews.intel.com>, <304acu$bfm@chnews.intel.com>ntel
- Subject : Re: 2M opening to Hawaii de CA.
-
- In article <304acu$bfm@chnews.intel.com> Tom WB7ASR <tom_boza@ccm.hf.intel.com> writes:
- >
- >When I lived in Ohio (ex: WA8NSH) 20 some years ago, I worked W1AW on
- >two meter FM through a Pittsburg, PA repeater. I know I could of just
- >pick up the phone and called W1AW, however its fun to play with radios
- >when you get conditions which are unexpected. That's what the hobby is
- >all about, playing and having fun!!!
- >
- >Tom WB7ASR...
-
- Hmm. My longest 2 meter FM contact was when I worked Columbus, Ohio
- from Bristol, VA through a Smokey Mt. Repeater. This was something like
- 300 miles. I'm still impressed that I can't do that out West here where
- we have bigger mountains but probably too many mountains. I was using
- my brand new FT-07 Yaesu handheld, first one out with microprocessor.
- I can reliably get the guy in Hawaii who is on RS-10. Why is it that all
- the DX hams are on the Big Island? I used to work a guy on 10 meter AM
- all the time who was on the Big one.
- Sure, I used to talk to Hawaii all the time on HF when the sunspot cycles
- were hot, but it got to be too common so now I listen for weak ones on
- VHF and UHF. No Hawaii yet and no skip anymore much either.
- --
- zardoz@ornews.intel.com WA7LDV from Oregon - The BEAVER state
- I speak only for myself. A Honeymoon salad = lettuce alone
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 15:03:59 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!wrdis02.robins.af.mil!lakeith@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CstyJ4.Ctp@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com>, <2vud99$gqj@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, <2vujjd$jr9@src-news.pa.dec.com>ch.e
- Subject : Re: Lack of professional consideration for HAM operators
-
- I think a one week cycle is a little optimistic. However, I think
- that Amateur Radio Operators should defray the cost of processing
- license applications. If we did, then we would have a reason to
- complain if the processing time is excessive.
-
- If I understand the situation correctly, Congress would have to pass a
- law that would allow the FCC to assess fees for processing amateur
- radio applications and allow the FCC to use the revenue to pay the
- salaries of additional employees. I am not sure that it is quite that
- simple. If the present computer system does not allow multiple access
- to the data, then throwing people at the problem will not help, as an
- example.
-
- If you really want to help, I suggest a letter to your representatives
- and to the FCC that makes the follwing points:
-
- 1. The current processing delay in the issue of new/modified amateur
- radio licenses is detrimental to amateur radio. These delays inhibit
- some potential candidates from testing for an amateur radio license
- and suggest that the federal government does not support amateur
- radio.
-
- 2. If processing delays can be reduced by hiring additional
- personnel, then the best solution is impose a processing fee for each
- license application and use the revenue to pay additional FCC
- employees.
-
- 3. As a licensed Amateur Radio Operator, I support the collection of
- fees from applicants to provide the revenue required to operate the
- Amateur Radio Licensing activity of the Federal Communications
- Commission as long as the fee is charged for each and every
- application. I would not support a plan where some applications are
- processed for free while other applicants are charged for the same
- service.
-
- OK, who is going to get the ball rolling?
-
-
- 73,
-
- Larry, KQ4BY
-
- ------------------------------
-
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